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  • #16
    Has anyone got married since the 5th and do we know if this has been resolved? as the UK embassy website still says check with Ampurs directly, (although on other sites even checking over the phone is not confirmation as some people have apparently still been turned away when they arrive).

    Also does anyone know what the usual time is for the MFA to return validated translated documents, is it 2 days? Once again it's difficult to find accurate information on this, I'm hoping it's two days max

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    • #17
      It is a little confusing as there is contradictory advice on the Government website. This link suggests the problem persists: https://www.gov.uk/marriage-abroad/y...l/opposite_sex

      I've alerted them and asked for clarification.
      Tobias - โทเบียส
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      • #18
        big rich, i thought the paperwork from the MFA all happened on the same day and was returned that day. Have things changed?
        Melnathan

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        • #19
          Originally posted by melnathan View Post
          big rich, i thought the paperwork from the MFA all happened on the same day and was returned that day. Have things changed?
          Melnathan
          Hi Melnathan,

          I got that information from this site which mentioned that the express service is no longer available since September this year. Very annoying! I hope I'm able to collect it in 2 days when I go through this process

          http://www.thethailandlife.com/married-thailand-diy-day

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          • #20
            Originally posted by big rich View Post
            Also does anyone know what the usual time is for the MFA to return validated translated documents, is it 2 days? Once again it's difficult to find accurate information on this, I'm hoping it's two days max
            It took almost 1 week to have my Freedom to Marry Cert translated & validated with the MFA. I used a translation company to do this, who didn't delay in the translation part, (I saw it within a few hours of dropping it with them) but as for the validation aspect it may be quicker to do it yourself.

            Although they did tell me that it would be no quicker doing it myself, and I even asked if they had a "VIP" route which I would pay the extra for to get things done quicker, to which they replied - No.....

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            • #21
              A week?!! I wont be best pleased if its that long and will mean i'll need to return to BKK earlier than i'd planned for. Will drop it off first thing on the Monday after its been translated and hopefully will be able to collect it on the weds or Thursday.

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              • #22
                I am not doubting anything that has been said here but I remember going to Laksi in 2009 and there was a big notice saying the express service for authenticating affirmation translations had stopped. They still did mine the same day though. I have an appointment booked at the British Embassy for 8am on 3 January for my Affirmation notarising and will be heading straight to the translation service and on to Laksi as soon as possible after that. I will try to find out what options are available and post details.

                I don't like using agents but if there is a few days wait at Laksi, an agent may work out cheaper than paying for a Bangkok hotel and sitting around waiting for days as the agent should be able to post the authenticated translation to me (at my home in Khao Yai).

                However, there appears to have been a change in the way that the embassy does things with the affirmation. It used to be that you could hand the affirmation and your documents in in the morning and collect them after 1pm. I didn't see any mention of that when booking my appointment, can anyone confirm that they now do it whilst you wait or otherwise?

                Also, many of us here used to use the services of a gentleman called Mr Preecha. As long as you had your affirmation done, he would handle everything, including the MFA. He has retired but last time I looked, his company, Original Translation Center, was still operating - run by relatives I think. I'll try to find out if they can still assist with all or part of the process.

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                • #23
                  This exact thing happened to me and my fiancee today. We came with everything the Uk government asked for but they wouldn't accept my freedom of marriage cert even though it had been translated and signed off by the MFA. I don't know what to do, I only have another 10 days in Thailand and I need the marriage certificate for our settlement visa.

                  The amphur was Khlong Toei, anyone know of any amphurs that aren't being so difficult?

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                  • #24
                    I got married at Lak Si Amphur on December 28th. The staff there are very good and I highly recommend them.

                    Good luck and drop a line if you need any more help.

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                    • #25
                      Is it correct that they are asking for Affirmations that originate in the UK?

                      Advice from the government states that they are not available in the UK:

                      Any foreign national wishing to marry in Thailand must obtain an “affirmation of freedom
                      to marry” document. The affirmation must be made in person at the Consular Section of
                      the British Embassy in Bangkok. It is not possible to obtain the affirmation from the United
                      Kingdom in advance


                      https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...,d.ZGg&cad=rja

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                      Originally posted by Rav View Post
                      I got married at Lak Si Amphur on December 28th. The staff there are very good and I highly recommend them.
                      Thanks for that Rav. I am familiar with the Amphur at Laksi. I'll speak to the wife and get her thoughts.

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                      • #26
                        I have been getting confused as to which thread I'm posting in as the subject in 'Marriage in Thailand' has changed to problems with Affirmations.

                        So, to repeat my post on that thread, can anyone who has had their affirmation rejected recently please PM me if they are happy for the Consular Section of the British Embassy to contact them on the matter. I emailed them yesterday and the seem prepared to look into the matter - see below.

                        From the thread 'Marriage in Thailand':

                        Besty, are you still in Thailand? If so please read on, I'm hoping you can help.


                        I emailed the British Embassy and the Consular Section last night and amazingly for them, they replied straight away. They tell me they are not aware of any problems at District Offices (Amphurs) and would like to investigate the matter. They want to talk to people who've experienced this problem.

                        Would you be prepared to PM me your Thai mobile number or e-mail address and I'll put them in touch with you - same goes for anyone else who's had this problem. It seems they are prepared to do something about it so lets not waste this (rare) opportunity.

                        I have to say though. I find it very strange that they don't know of the problem.

                        The e-mail from the consulate was clearly witten by a Thai national (bad English) but the message is clear. This is it:

                        Dear Mr ******,


                        Thank you for contacting Consular Section at British Embassy Bangkok dating 10 February 2017.

                        Further to your concerned, we are currently do not face with a problem with local district office in Thailand. We do not have customer who obtain an Affirmation of Freedom to Marry and unable to register marriage.

                        In this case, can you provide us more information about the case that happen your members please. We will try to get in touch with the person also investigate the issue.

                        Yours Sincerely,
                        Vee

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                        • #27
                          not so sure about this but i do know if you have the dollar then marriage in thailand can be done in a day .

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                          • #28
                            Come on guys. The consular section have offered to help but they need examples and someone who is prepared to tell them exactly what happened at which Amphur. Its no use us moaning about this if we don't take assistance when its offered.

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                            • #29
                              Not that anyone seems to be interested but.......

                              My wife called Buriram Amphur and was told they would not accept a British Affirmation of Freedom to Marry unless it had come from within the UK. This of course, is at odds with UK government advice which states an affirmation cannot he obtained in the UK for a foreign marriage.

                              An e-mail to the lady in Consular Services in Bangkok resulted in a phone call from her to Buriram Amphur who now agree that a properly translated and certified (by the MFA) affirmation is acceptable.

                              But of course.......we all know what happens if a Thai loses face. I now have to provide a translated and certified (again by the MFA) copy of my passport and provide two witnesses (not Amphur staff) and a translator must be present! Last time it was 2 Amphur staff, no passport translation and the Amphur manager just asked me (in Thai) if I understood what was going on. I showed him a translated copy of a Thai wedding certificate and an original so of course I knew what was entailed and that was fine by him.

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                              • #30
                                I am reading some worrying things about the additional requirement for the Amphurs in Bangkok now.

                                With such limited time to get married in april due to songkran holiday I could do without any issues,

                                Does anyone have any info/website for the Lak si amphur?

                                Is this it?

                                http://www.bangkok.go.th/laksi/
                                https://www.facebook.com/laksi2/

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